Sorry about that. I kinda jumped the gun here.
That's okay. I should have caught it. And the Yeah, okay, that would be another good thing to add in.
John is as he said. Having a way to pick up PDFs.
People can.
Yeah. And we could put like we could put links to Bach from here. I don't, you know, I don't, I don't think we wanna keep those on GitHub.
I mean, I guess we could technically, but I was thinking that could still be something like on Bock maybe I don't know but that's why like for example like I have these links here on our about page.
That go to the web hosted on BAC. And so maybe, we could structure our presentation archives and like a certain predictable format here.
Good meeting you said the links here. Which links are you referring to? The
Well, like for these slides, right, so it's on. Like the URL for these slides is slash resources slash presentation slash media slash 2024 slash STL Linux slash the meeting date.
Okay, but I'm not sure which slides you're referring to.
Oh, you're not seeing my screen right now.
Seeing. It says main migrating from being MS Windows. Oh, okay. Okay, why am I seeing something different over here?
Let me, let me stop and re-share. That'll help.
I mean, my screen keeps changing and it's got stuff somewhat of what you're talking about.
I mean we could try I don't know how big a lot of these things are these slides like that was 1.6 megs.
I don't know I something about storing those slides and like a GitHub repo doesn't really.
Seem like the best way to me, but like linking to them. From the website to where they're currently stored on BACK.
That seems like a good thing to do. We could do that.
Okay.
You got a problem with GitHub, you only got a 2 gig, maximum, using storage space, right?
I think.
Is that right? That's a lot. Okay.
We're like a hundred 50 gig already on media storage.
Wow. Bye. A lot of that's the videos though, which could be offloaded to YouTube.
People used to go over there.
But yeah.
Alright, well that's just what I wanted to show was that. Oh the other thing I wanna show is So I haven't done any of the styling yet.
I mean, I've made a I've did a tiny bit to like make these look like cards or whatever, but really I haven't done any styling.
Of the website yet. And what I found was this tool right here called screenshot to code.
And this is an open source project that I'm running. On my local computer and basically you take a screenshot like here I like the layout of the NPR politics podcast here.
I don't know. I just like something about the way this is laid out with like the date on top of the of the podcast episode, I think that would be good for ours.
I don't know, I just like something about this layout and then instead of like listen and the dots here I can put like YouTube and meet up here.
I know something about this layout I just kinda like. And so I was trying to kind of copy this a little bit.
And so what you can do is you can upload this or you can take a screenshot of this like I did here.
I took a screenshot of the website and I uploaded it to this. Docker container running locally and it basically called chat GPT for vision.
To basically provide this code. And then it produced this code with chat GPT 4. And this is what it looks like.
On desktop and on mobile. And you see it's not exactly the same. Like the thumbnails on the wrong side and stuff.
But it's pretty close. It's a good starting point. And for someone like me to who's not very good at this stuff to create a layout like this.
Would take me like a day, you know, several hours at least. And so the screenshot to code things pretty cool.
I wanna keep playing around with it. And I could do a base presentation on screenshot to code if that'd be something that would interest anybody.
But let's just do a real short base presentation though because You know, there's not that much to it.
Or you need change your layout. Yeah. I don't know what you get on a single screen.
Alright, so that's what I had. I had the that. And I put the URL for this.
This is already deployed out here. It's got it's on some placeholder URL right now.
But I put it in the chat and so I'll keep working on this. And so, y'all wanna keep checking in on that URL.
You'll see my, updates, but it's already being deployed to So.
Yup.
If you say you put the URL into the chat. Thank you. I'm just pulling it up now, so.
By the way, just kicking Lee here. Showing that for some reason my What I'm showing as your screen.
Is different than what Lee is showing is your screen. It's probably a personal problem. Don't worry about it.
Wow, that's weird.
I'll figure it out. But it's not the same screen that you're showing. It's like it's on the way almost.
So, but never mind, not a problem. See, I got mine split in presentation and, right, right.
So I got 2 screens.
Anyway, yeah, the stuff you got there is great. Overall general idea, I definitely applaud the idea.
Having it laid out so that it's got the tags and people could just click on a tag.
That's a great way of tracking it, click on the author and Oh yeah. That's good.
Just. To get people interested. They see You know, say Ken, for instance, is going to do the presentation.
Okay, let's click on Ken and oh, he's done this presentation before that presentation. This is type of stuff he talks on.
I think it's a great, great way of. Intriguing people enough to come to the meetings.
Cool. Yeah, it looks great. I like it, Shawn. Yeah.
Okay.
That's all, it's pretty easy. So, it's a static site generator like Hugo or something like that.
And so Adding more meetings is essentially just means adding more markdown files. So, but that's some of the work that we're gonna want volunteers on is to.
Collect all the mark down or like generate all the mark down files for all the meetings or at least the upcoming ones or however far back in time I want to go but Is not that bad because it's only 24 marked on files per year, right?
Cause there's only 24 plug in. But
Well, cool. All right.
So at the. Meeting is coming Wednesday. We'll just. We reiterate that, okay, the projects in in motion.
And, anybody who wants to. Join in as a contributor or Help work on it.
It's going up. Okay, does that mean we should set aside the The base session, I don't wanna make it sound like I'm recruiting you to do the base session talk, but.
Is that a reasonable thing to have you describe this the group in that opening base tutorial or? You do not want that.
I think that's a good idea. I think I think I'll do the base session on that screenshot to code thing.
And then I'll couch it as the reason why I'm looking into this is because I have this website that I could use some help with and I need to style it.
So.
Okay, that's a good I like it. Yeah, that's a good way of doing it.
Cool. Okay. Most excellent. Definitely.
Alright, well I gotta head out but but yeah, I'll send the abstract for that presentation pretty soon.
And I'll keep working on the site, between now and, so. We'll see how far it gets before then.
Okay, well excellent. Thank you sir.
Alright, have a good evening.
You too. Appreciate you coming.
Okay. Let's see. Can I already cried on lee shoulder about, yeah, I just been inundated here by different.
Different other non work. Compute non non-computer less life situations in the last couple weeks.
And, so yeah, I. Ben, I'm getting things locked down. Our speaker who we were supposed to have.
We put on this month. Because he never got back to us about whether he was doing it last month and he promised it the month before.
Anyway, I got provoked enough today that I called his office. Instead of just leaving a voicemail at his office phone.
I've tried to get the operator and and basically found out he's no longer listed as an employee.
At his company. So, it's crisp paradigm that IX systems. This could explain why he's not answering the emails that I've been sending to his email or his company email address.
And why he doesn't answer the phone calls that I have left on his voicemail. So, so with that having been said, I doubt if he's going to be doing the presentation this month.
So I need to double down and pursue some other people here. But I haven't gotten that done yet.
So we right now have no main speaker yet for next Wednesday. I will work on that. One of the ones I'm looking at.
And I'm more than happy to get. Feedback from You can and we. That stand by.
I am getting frustrated. With my eyeglasses. Always got the wrong dam.
There we go.
Okay. I guess it was 2 months ago. We had guy named Alex Tolle.
Do a presentation.
I think he's a recent. Recently finished is I think second mastery's degree.
And I felt the other one was related. And so his presentation was pretty Yeah, pretty high level hardcore technical.
And, But. He wanted to, he's offered another presentation on the development.
Of our libraries. The our language libraries in Linux. Obviously on the one hand, it's somewhat specialized sounding area.
I personally happen to really like the our language. Everybody should learn it, but don't that's besides the point but just the fact of how to develop libraries for Linux.
I would hope would interest most of our people. So I'm thinking of perhaps, telling him, yeah, well.
We'd love to hear that. Am I just going to technical you guys think or?
Hmm. Nothing wrong the topic. I'm just Trying to decide if it's a main or a lot.
Yeah, I mean it definitely. Is our to Unix's, you know, are they? Are they current enough to?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I think, our run on Microsoft. I think it's I know it runs on macos, so that would be a another variation of Unix, it's not Linux.
Well, I'm thinking a rush. You think? Yeah, okay. I'm sorry.
Yeah, it's certainly available.
Alright.
Hello, one thing with that. Yes, there is an R user group in St. Louis back there's 2 of them.
There's a general our user group There's also one called Our Ladies. Which yes is gender specific and although I've been back in the old days before the pandemic yes there are a few ladies who looked at me as kind just a little bit of the room where I was well behaved wasn't saying anything.
And luckily one of the 2 ladies who co-founded the group defended me and said no I invited Gary he can stay.
But anyway, So the one downside of actually doing this presentation. Next week would be yes since there are these 2 beat up groups of St.
Louis are users. We would likely pick up viewership if I advertise to those 2 meetup groups.
And the thing is, you know, probably the farther out we advertise, you know, especially the fact that well, the main group hasn't met for since 2021 2022 something like that very early in the pandemic.
They are ladies actually have a meeting coming up next month, but. If I could schedule that out a month in advance, it'd be more likely to.
You know, to catch people from the R groups. Okay. So in a way I'd like to wait on that.
But.
Well, you always.
Continuation. Or I can bug,
Robert. He's talking about doing D. Some guy named Lee, he's on here for a whole lot of talks.
Oh. Hi. So I hate to. Hey to tuck on your kids late.
You've already been doing well.
The other guy.
Anyway, I can keep poking around. If either of you have any other hot prospects let me know otherwise I'll just What is it?
It's not presentations. What is the planning dot PDF?
Top level right after sleep.org.
Let's be lower KHP. Yes it is.
I have to admit there was something that I was thinking of asking somebody from Microsoft to talk about. I can't remember what the topic was.
Well, you know, if we wanted to be You know. Current, we would find somebody to talk about X.
I'm sorry, we're getting a lot of like echo off. Off you there, Ken.
I said if we wanted to be current, we would get somebody to talk about XZ.
Okay
Got it a bit. I'm not at all aware of that. What's that? It's
Oh. It's well the software is a Just some compression software. And it turns out that, Someone is perpetrated a long con to get.
They basically a supply chain compromise embedded into it. Because you mentioned Microsoft and apparently it was somebody at Microsoft who noticed.
Fortunately they noticed it before these versions made it into Debian stable or You know, Ubuntu Ker and Tour Renat.
The compromise, you know, apparently allows several different things. One of the things that it does is, in remote command execution is root.
Okay.
So, you know, it's pretty much red hot.
Okay. I'll try and bug our most recent speaker from Microsoft and also the manager down there.
If somebody say hi. Oh, yeah, What? It's half time. It is tight.
And I can't get the pause button. This slow button doesn't work. Why wouldn't it work?
Try to one up here.
That one. That one, that's the pause, but no, it's not. Different one.
It's positive too. Sorry, there's a. And she NC double A final 8 tonight.
I was supposed to work. Down here anyway because there's a tornado. No, there isn't.
It's nowhere near here. Okay. Idiot lawyer that scares the shit out of everybody when there's nothing within 10 miles there.
Okay, anyway, I will call. All the folks at Microsoft and see if I can get somebody. Somebody lined up for this.
Is that, XC compression?
Yeah, well, I mean, they will not necessarily have something about it. It just, but it does turn out that it was somebody who works in Microsoft who, No doubt about it.
But you know, they might decide, hey, yeah, let's go for it. I don't know.
Oh, it's a good good chance for some visibility for him. You know, it's like.
I say they've done some nice talks for us in the last year, so a couple nice talks.
As much as we badmouth Microsoft, which is I badmouth. Microsoft.
It's Tracy Cooley. Is the. Microsoft, in St. Louis.
We're in the tech center anyway. I can't find anything in here that isn't done.
Let's see the ones. Are you able to hold up? Looking at the 4 10,
Okay, that's still 23 February. One time showing that you would propose scan vulnerabilities with Docker compose.
Secure email, what is DKEM, Dmark and SPF.
Virtualization, we're go, we go.
Your own pie hole on the Raspberry Pi.
Yeah, I'd like to, I'm not gonna have time to put together in the week.
And, scan vulnerabilities is more, tutorial length and a presentation link.
Let's especially for a main meeting.
Yeah, I mean the fact that we got a tutorial on the front, having 2 presentations in the night.
I sometimes think we.
Overtax or membership. They liked the information, but Yeah, when you wind up sitting in front of the screen listening to user group tab talk for an hour and a half.
Some of them are like, okay, I'm ready. Call tonight. So I don't mind shared presentations.
Anyway, you think of that. To both of you, if either of you have any other suggestions of
Good talks for either the Wednesday or Thursday meeting this month. I will be.
Following up on this and trying to make something happen.
Wait a minute, how come Scotch down for Hugo?
I don't know. You can't spell it. Oh yeah? Really?
Yeah, I've asked, I've asked him for Somebody to help. Fix a couple of things I've got more than once.
And he said, well, we don't know anybody. No. Unless he's hiding.
Check a woman too.
Well, if you want, if you want a shorter one, you can pence me in per vial.
Wait a second. Didn't somebody do that recently? Does she look at that?
Yeah, James Conroy. In October.
October eleventh it was base. Hi. Yeah. There it is.
Okay, Then they got them.
Okay, Yes, some folks if you don't see me. Saying success on Steercom, although I'm still looking.
All right.
Maybe we should jump on to the actual agenda. Pulled up.
Okay.
By the way, Ken, we usually Stick more to the structure. I don't know why well we got off tonight because There's only the 3 of us plus Sean.
So we kind of had low attendance and And, I told Sean since he had to get out of here right away that, yeah, we can.
Hurry up and get his, thing in. We just automatically put him at the top of the fence.
Have you, have you, manage log in and? Get set up data again.
Yeah, I've been making some edits as we go along. So for example.
Mark who's present. I put in. Screenshot code as base.
And.
I do treasury port out. I'll fill it in after after you're done.
Okay.
Secretary report, we can say that we have a A wonderful new set of fingers on the keyboard. Thank you, Ken.
Hey. I talked, I talked to Stan earlier this afternoon and I think he said that he. IS running out of time to get the numbers in for the.
Calendar report. So yeah, there are no numbers down from Mark. Hey, can, if you want to tweak it.
Nothing. We spent nothing last month. Beginning at any balls for the same.
If you're editing.
Hmm.
Yeah, you don't think you have to watch out for is since you're in there editing nobody else can make a change because you can get them out of sync.
If I change and save. Then those changes don't work when you save.
Alright, well, so don't do that.
So, and says one more, which is the same as the balance of 31 margin. There's no expenses listed.
Right.
Okay. So we don't have any calendar report updates.
Sorry, I can't understand you.
Why that should be a problem. Normally this behaves pretty well.
You're overdriving, I think, move the mic away from your mouth just a little bit.
Okay, how's this sound?
Right now. That's been much better. Thank you.
Okay. So.
We've just mentioned that we. Do not have a calendar report.
Correct.
Okay.
Subscriber report did get updated.
The only thing that I'm noticing that Someone worries me of course is the sis admin group.
Has increased again. Now it's up to 21 for the last 2 months. And then at 19, the 2 months previous and 16, the 4 months before that.
And then it had been 15 or 16 forever. And on the one hand, I love to see the growth.
On the other hand, you know, we've always said that it's a It is a possible security problem.
If we're letting anybody join sis admin, so I'll try and go back in and.
Look at the people who joined just to make sure that they're real. Legitimate people who want to work on system administration.
Where is my again, we can actually look at a list if we need to figure out where the tab is.
Can while, is pulling it up just to remind you if you're not. Well, where the sis admin mailing list Yes, for the administration of Bach.
Yeah, I'm on that list. I am on that list.
Pardon me. Okay.
Yeah, happy to have more people there.
Hi. Right, well, I rarely touch Bach, but I do from time to time have
Factual contributions.
John Ed Wiener. Gary Grant. Jamal Ahmed. He was.
We could probably move him if you want. He's never been around. Or you recognize the name?
Well, that was somebody they wanted wanted to. Oh. And then never did. You never did.
See, yeah, how long ago that was? No, it was like years ago. No, it was like last, you know.
Where do we were talking about Debaka.
In that case, we, we didn't probably afford it. James, Jerry's study or her voice in a past.
Jeff Muse having from him 10 years.
And me, Mike, Rich, Sean Grant. Stan, Steve, Sorry.
Least we got all the names in here. There's 21, yeah, last year, 21.
And would be one of the or we should want to. Okay. For the time being. Okay.
Okay. See next list or the attendance reports.
That's been done.
If they're updated. I can see if there's anything worth noting.
Okay.
I'm gonna run off sharing for a second.
Linux meeting. Don't always intrigues me this time. So in November we jumped. October was 16.
November we jumped to 27 then we've been in the twenties. Ever since.
I'm happy about, always curious as to why. We just got a couple of good interesting presentations and kept Some people coming back.
You always kind of ask, and since he kind of pays attention to He's got any feel that
I have to go back and look at what. What we did in November that they have pulled in the people.
Okay. Let's see.
So we counted balance balance. The last meeting. The last during committee meeting.
Linux meeting.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, using LLAM and rag. I really was totally unfamiliar with rag.
And I gotta go back and re listen to that presentation because I don't know if I really understand it well, but it obviously is something that's a real key thing to the tools.
I'm really happy that Sean did the presentation. Okay. Seemed like we had. A lot of good interest people's part.
You weren't there where you can?
No, no. So.
I think the people who were there.
Well, my wife is. Yeah, every now and then my wife, please with chat GPT.
Huh.
And.
She's sort of, she feels like, you know. You don't have to be able to do the thing that I'm asking you to do.
But it can't. And on top of that. Rather than just saying I can't do that.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, made up answers. And. You know.
She finds this less than useful.
Yeah.
Yeah. I agree with you there. It's like, yeah, don't tell me anything.
Or at least say, okay, here's my guess, but yeah, to just put it out there.
At the risk of it being wrong. I agree.
Well, and some of it, you know, some of the things like she's asked it to do.
I mean, the one that she's typically interested in. He's asking it to do. Proof of text.
Huh.
And. That's not something it can do.
Really?
Really? And not only could it not do it, as I said, Yeah, it just makes stuff up.
Oh! Okay.
And there are other things, there are other areas too where it makes things up.
Apparently it's pretty common for people who grab public domain texts from Prager Gutenberg.
And put them on Amazon for sale. What is a legal thing? To ask.
One of the
The last one of the, Hello, for a summary.
Of that book.
Yep.
And the OLM has no clue. So, make something up. And then they put it off, put it in there.
And my wife, you know, kinda confirmed this by.
By going to one of the LLMs and asking, you know, Please, summarize this book.
And it got back and answered very, very, very close. To that description at Amazon.
And. So. My wife is the main cataloger at Prager Hootenburg.
So that's why she's kind of familiar with. You know, some of these books.
Really?
And I don't remember how it happened. Know there was some book you know shoes you know doing some kind of lookup of and you know came across.
Getting missus but bad number
Came across this stuff, at at Amazon and it was like
That's not what that book's about.
Oh, I wonder if he's calling some interference on Wi-Fi.
So your back, shall we continue?
Yeah, that's that's really Crazy little what you're saying, but your wife's experience.
I mean, if I'm not, she's crazy, but I'm glad she's.
Passing it on it just Good to know that not to depend on, chat QPT to be able to do that kind of stuff.
Oh, Church Chat GPT isn't that much better than I read it on the internet.
Is this low network bandwidth message again?
Yeah. I'm sorry, Ken. I didn't mean to.
Anyway, so.
Extract from what you were saying. My screen keeps coming up saying I've gotten low network bandwidth and unstable network and I don't understand.
I'm guessing it might have something to do with the storm outside. But, there's a cable over, grabbed at yellow cable.
That's what the control. Yeah. Good long enough for each order. Oh.
Oh, sure.
Stand by Ken, he's telling me to get off Wi-Fi and go to Okay.
And let's see, I need to get a Okay, oh god, I had to go into a USB for.
Thank you.
So, you know. Around here we're wired. Most of the time, except when unless it's tablet her phone.
But that's because when we moved in. Before we moved in.
Huh? Nice.
We ran category 5. Pretty much everywhere.
Hey, LO, you know, 200 megabits, but.
You'd be surprised to know what you can get done with 100 megabits.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm, you're still in the same place. I've, God, it's probably done at least 6 years since I've been via your house, but was over.
Just west of Wash you if I remember right, yes. By thinking correctly.
Okay.
No, no, you're seeing somebody else. Will in Maplewood? South of Manchester just a little ways.
Just sort of a block versus the railroad tracks.
Oh, okay. Okay.
And in an old house. With. Hmm. Peculiar layout.
Steam heat.
Okay, yeah, I remember you talking about that. I don't know.
Right, right. And, hey, but you know, we, we got the, the asphalt jingle signing covered up.
Yeah.
You know, we, we know, have white aluminum signing everywhere. That was last phone. Anyhow
Okay, moving on.
So where are we? We talked about. The numbers. Meeting review comments.
Yeah.
Trying to come back to the.
Yeah, your mic worked this way up, Ken. Or should either push it down or push it away.
Okay.
It's much better. Yeah, it's apparently it's over driving if it's too close.
My guess is that.
I'm guessing that Zoom is using a different amount of gain.
Than the default.
You know you can change the gain in the Zoom client.
If you go to audio settings. Turn off, automatically adjust microphone. And then run the input volume down a ways and turn automatic back on.
Hmm. You know, the I use the input volume, the manual scale basically sets the baseline and automatic.
Helps you maintain.
Sure. I would have to find the settings. Let's keep going with the meeting. I'll just try and keep it down.
Okay, where are we?
I believe we're on meeting review comments.
Yeah. The last Linux meeting, Sean talking. Good. Excellent presentation.
Very, very good. And I jumped one ahead. I'm sorry. Should I first talked about
The slew meeting on mark to thirteenth. So let me go back to that. That would lead talking about cloning block and bringing on bringing.
Updated system online First off to get any other feedback.
I still thought it was really good. Yeah, we, it was turned into more of a working session, which is great.
Yeah. That's almost like we, instead of introducing it to people, we actually got people to.
Participate in the thought process. Good. Main presentation was computer history.
Whoops, whoops, hold on a minute.
Okay, there it is.
Okay, question is. Gary, we need to get him to save. Okay, how would you do that?
Hmm.
It's too ethical.
I just did save. Okay.
Oh, okay.
Hold on.
I don't want to log in. I don't want to rest stepping on what he's doing.
So what comments do we have about Scott's presentation? Last month.
First off, a big thank you because he, short notice. He did it on short notice.
Since Robert had to drop out. And, so that was very much appreciated. Secondly, Some people don't like history talks, I do.
But I thought it was just full of good stuff. I mean, from 1968, you know, you.
Tempted to say, okay, that's old news, right? But, but no, he did a really nice job of, Thank you.
Good talk. Good talk.
Let's see.
Yeah, hold on. I've misplaced it.
Sorry, my machine is slowed down. You know that's because I went plugged in the ethernet here or
Thanks.
I say slow down? No, it's come to a screeching.
You might wanna try to. Turn off your Wi-Fi. Good idea.
Gary has lost control.
Okay, you got any more comments about? I thought it was excellent. And we had a good audience participation.
Okay. Next one up is. The Thursday talk, which was, but that was the, LLM and RAG.
Oh, yeah. Mark, you're in March.
And, and again, it was, I mean that kind of stuff is over my head. Not my.
Experience. So to me, everything he was talking about with Greg was I kind of understood the importance of it, but it was all bleeding edge to me.
So I wanna go back and listen to the talk again just to. Make sure I understand all the details, but I thought he did an excellent job representing it and it would definitely a very timely and I thought interesting talk.
Alright, April.
Slack, change. We talked about that. No change right now. See.
We did not have
Right to the We have anything about the.
The new Linux meeting that was held on the 20 sixth.
Okay.
See, I wasn't there. And I didn't hear any feedback from Stan. Or, Yeah, how about how about the new log meeting?
Oh, yeah, no.
Hey, you don't call the slack or the new look. Yeah. Okay.
So this, Slack meeting is still be on the fourth as far as I know. No reason to change it.
And, That's good just where it is. Jumping down to this loop meeting. Okay.
Let's see, Sean is going to do the screenshot code.
So. Right.
And he'll get back to me.
Yeah, hold on a minute. I have a question about that.
So status, what do I call that since we've got?
Confirmed, I guess. Yeah, he said that he, gonna do it. So.
By the way, in the background just for the.
I don't curiosity, the 2 of you. The Chromebook that I'm running.
Rebooted itself after it hung here.
And it's probably partially my fault because I got enough tabs open to choke a horse.
But. But no, shouldn't do that.
Oh, it could be running on a 2 86. Okay. If you had something less than 10 years old, it might work a little better.
Is this something called a 3 60 grow book? 26.
Oh. Okay, so we don't.
The simple question is you know, how many gigabytes of memory does it have?
Hmm.
If the answer is single digit.
Hello? Probably 2 gigs. Yeah, oh, it's, yeah, I think it's 8, but still.
Alright, so.
Okay. Alright, then we.
For the main thing, in remarks, I've said that Gary will ask at Microsoft 3 X.
And.
As I know. That's what we got. There is also a note that
Robert Sitex. Was withdrawn.
Robert.
That's why I just I'm gonna ask Rob. If he can. If he can go for this month as well.
So.
Yeah, hopefully one of those 2 will come through.
Right.
So then what about the Linux log meeting?
Maybe the R talk, the R libraries talk, maybe.
Yeah, I mean, I understand your
Understand your point about
More time, as we recruit more attendees from. Our ladies but
One might not have a lot of choice.
Alright.
Okay. Anything else about that?
Hmm. Nope. That's got it.
Alright. New Linux, April 20 third. My guess is we don't have anything to say about that, but.
Nope. I mean the date's good. That for the Slack and the new Linux meeting usually.
The only issue of contention beforehand is is the date a conflict of some kind. Is it falling on a holiday?
Change for a holiday. Yeah. So, and May, no reason to go out there at this point.
Okay.
Actually, no, in May. Not for whether it's the When is the Thursday night meeting?
Craig, made an offer. Is it already out there?
That shows available.
Yeah. No. Okay. Okay.
Hey, what you guys entertain yourself for a moment? I'm gonna quickly look and see if I can find My note from Craig.
Stand by.
Alright.
Hey.
Okay, here's what Craig's proposing. He wants to do a practice run. Of a that he wanted to put together for the Blue Ridge Ruby Group.
It's a talk that's pretty ruby-focused. But a lot of it applies to most programming languages.
So not sure if the log or the Unix user group meetings are really right. But he would like the opportunity to trial run the talk.
And he's also going to invite all of the old St. Louis Ruby user group people to come to our talk.
So in other words. We'll probably label it as a joint meeting.
So.
So that was for the Thursday meeting.
I guess we could go either way. That did.
Good he express preference?
But you're talking, right? Right. We already got the main group from A, right?
So, okay, so yeah, that's what we do the Thursday.
What was the main for me? Oh, I thought we did.
We might, but I don't know about it.
Okay, alright, so we could put it down as the main
I mean in my mind that's a real vague Definition, a talk about Ruby.
But I guess it's. And correct usually is a good speaker but it's just I worry about it being to be focused.
But Says a lot of replies to most programming languages.
Yeah, My lot of people come to our meetings, you look at your cross side when you talk about programming.
Yeah, that's true.
I took a clash on Ruy 15 years ago. I can never. Get myself to do any.
Okay, let's leave it there. Whole is a placeholder at least. And, I'll keep talking.
Alright.
Craig, bud. You know, giving us more details on it, see where we're.
See what we got.
Okay.
Zoom Meeting, May.
I got nothing. So.
Alright.
By the way, somebody remind me what was XZ compression. From Microsoft, Okay.
Okay, so XZ is. Who's a compression utility in life and associated a library.
Okay.
It's pretty widely used in open source operating systems.
Somebody. Who is working, and what you would refer to, I believe, as a long con. Manage to become a developer and insert.
A bunch of back doors. It's really like a supply chain. Compromise. And there was a researcher at Microsoft who discovered it.
His last name was Andres. Wondering, I'm not sure both pronunciation and DRES.
Yes.
Okay, let's see if I can scout out. Information from Microsoft. Okay.
Very good.
Oh, I'm sorry. His name is Andres. Or Andre, I don't know, that's the first name.
His last name is Freund, FREU ND.
Hey, got it. Thank you. Oh, and we has found something. Well, it's the ours technical article today.
Okay.
Sure, there is. Lots of stuff about it out there.
Okay.
And. I just realized I put that some stuff in the wrong place, so.
Hold on a minute.
Yeah, but what they don't say is X is not the standard. For the default compression library, it's an optional one.
The standard is, or the, the default is normally, Okay.
So when you make a tarball, it's Z is the standard compression. That most people use actually isn't.
Is a different one. It's not the standard. Okay.
Yeah.
It's used in enough places.
Not that we have to belabor it now, but. Why would somebody use it instead of the standard?
Because it's already built into stuff.
Okay, yeah, it's already used in a lot of places. Okay.
Presumably, well.
That right
Yes, okay.
So then I think we can talk about old business.
Yeah. Anything specific on the old business? Try to.
Okay, well, it's Mostly, you know, server, admin and block upgrade, website maintenance.
I don't think we really have anything to see about any of that.
Unless you've got anything on top about server, I've been late. No, we're good.
For uploading meetup.com internet presence.
Yeah, motion, this is notes, notes to. Record history.
Cameras and microphones haven't done anything there for 5 year.
Tennis database as a stand stand thing planning schedule with Stan. Andouts, no progress, organizational papers.
Nothing. Sponsorships, no progress. We need help, no progress.
A new business.
I put some notes in there about Sean's. Who Cha showed us.
Okay. Okay. Good. And new business, make the mention that Somebody has consented to, help us out with trying to keep up on the secretary part here.
Thank you.
No, he was elected, but. Yeah, some people that when they're elected disappear, they never heard from.
Someone graciously accepted their drafting their secretary
Yeah. Somebody else is gonna put that in. I can't be bothered.
Yeah.
A running. Comment they're not off of the thing talking about you and the secretary position but Just in general that we need help.
So, again, I've. I've certainly mentioned at our meetings that, yeah, we need more volunteers to do more things.
And I just realized that, you know, that almost It very seldom happens. Somebody just says, oh sure, I'm gonna volunteer.
So, It's really up to me and anyone else here on the Steering Committee to tap somebody on the shoulder and say, hey.
You'd be interested in doing this. So, If you have any thoughts on anybody who could be volunteered, Ken.
If you don't feel comfortable tapping them on the shoulder, tell me and I'll go tap them on the shoulder and say, hey, would you mind working on this?
No way.
Alrighty. Alright, so. I don't see much else on here that we That's probably business.
I always look at the upcoming months recurring requirements.
Goodings pretty much automated now.
That's really acting up.
Looks like the thing that will need to be done in June. The corporate renewal thing.
Annual report.
Alright, I guess that's it then.
What's anybody wants to go off to blue sky off recording commentary but If you have anything we need to do.
Not try no off.
Out of the or off the record. So. Okay, I guess we can stay. Alright.
Okay, not
Alright, undone editing, so.
No.
Hold on 1 s, Ken. This has been the steering committee. Meeting for.
April, April the first. This is not an April Fools joke. April the first, 2,024.
Ken Johnson's been doing the secretary work and we Lambert and I. Been the rest of the steering committee here and so oh and Sean Twe house was with us earlier at the beginning of the meeting, talking about the, presentation he proposed to do.
So