Hi, record on.
Okay, let me.
It is being recorded.
Damn it.
Okay.
Should be an agenda somewhere. She's got it up.
Okay. Okay.
They will I pull my agenda up.
Dan, you already got it up, so if you wanna.
Thank you.
I wish started video recording 701 there about starting the meeting 7 called order yes
All favor? Yeah, alright. Good. We're in order.
Hi.
Hey, who's here?
Gary. Me?
Dave's here.
Me?
Me's here. Gary is here. I'm here. Steve's here.
Who else here, Sean?
Yeah, yeah, It's got a log in here.
Okay. Okay, that's fine. That's fine.
Okay.
Sorry, I'm here, but I'm back and forth, so I haven't really heard a lot up till now, but sorry about that.
I hear you.
Yeah.
Hey.
Treasury port, you want to put that in later Lee?
Yeah.
Okay.
On the calendar report, there's a number. We
Yes, month was 2 96. Entries on the calendar. Down, down from. January was very high for some strange reason.
But the 2 96 for February seems to be about in line with how things go. For the calendar.
And that's just shows essentially. How much effort we put into it and
I think Gary told me he has not put a lot of effort in cleaning it up further than it has been.
Right.
Yeah, there's some groups that I've been carrying. You know, thinking it'll come back after COVID.
And I think we're after COVID and some of them just. You know, we're still dead.
Which is a shame some of them been around forever like There's 2 of them with Craig Bootchack as the leader.
And. Yeah, they're just not any indication they're gonna come back alive.
At what point do you need to start purging that, Gary?
I'm slowly doing it very slowly, but, I'm trying to spend more time on it.
Hello, at the boatline show this year there were a handful
Let's write a report.
And I should say that on most of these what I wind up doing is I either mark them as a canceled meeting or I just dropped them off the calendar.
You know, when we get to like within a day or so of the actual meeting. So.
Yeah, that's good because I don't count until after. A month ago, whatever. There's the count up, the meet up.
What to 9 30? It's been going up like Approximately. 10 or so. 20 whatever.
And it seemed like it's quite a jump from January. Almost. 10 or 2010 15 each month so whatever seemed like a little bigger jump But that might be my imagination because it was short months.
Announced want to drop one discuss stay the same. Steercom also. The added some people, list this admin.
I think those are people that are volunteering for the And build up, right?
Yeah.
Okay. The attendance report here, though.
Following the new format. We had 4 people, last month slack with 11 St. Louis, Unix users group was 24.
The Linux group was 23 and New Love was down to 10. Quite a drop for the new love.
But the quality, the people that attended was amazing. Okay. Hey.
Hmm.
Yeah, I shoot.
And stay awake, I wonder.
Stand anybody napping or those meetings? Okay.
No, not really.
Why do you say the quality of the new luck was amazing? What happened?
I'll get to that. Essentially, we got some some of the relatively newer guys to show up that they're programmer types and Take it up on little interesting tangents or whatever and then and then when they settle down I get into some I try to steer back to the routine stuff in case there's that happens to be some new person attending.
And we did have one guy, he just sat there and didn't say a thing or type anything or whatever.
So I just did the normal. Just tried to talk about things and I did point out. No, I'll get to that later.
In a comment. Nothing significant. For the, Slack meeting.
It's kind of the same kind of deal. We had a
You're conf you attended a smooth meeting.
Oh, we, we just did the.
We did the the annual meeting. You wanna say anything about the annual meeting, Gary? It was sharpens brief and sweet.
Yeah, that's about all shapes. I think we ended up with 9 s That wasn't okay.
I have to go back and check what my red group was.
But. Yeah, I don't think it was a record though.
I'm getting old.
Okay. Yeah. Anyway, the the slug meeting that.
For the base portion. Lee did some. Slides and kinda the prompt a discussion by volunteers.
And I thought it was interesting and I hope a couple of people got out of it. Yes, Lee had prepared those slides and that helped guide the discussion.
You have anything to say about that, Lee?
Yeah, we got a couple of people added on So apparently apparently somebody followed it. It looks like we've gone up by.
5 or 6 people in the last 2 months.
Whatever. Anyway, and Scott Grannon did the continued growth of artificial intelligence. Discussion.
As usual, the material was. Great, very timely. I mean, it's basically one of the big topics of the day.
You hear about it every night on the news.
Read about it all the time online. So. Scott's very good at bringing us the latest and greatest info.
Yeah. It pretty much, covered. Everything you could think of, I guess. I don't know.
Anyway.
Yep. I hope I wasn't. I hope I wasn't too silly at the end. Saying that this had been a an AI generated image of Scott doing a AI generated presentation.
Appropriate.
Oh. Oh, by the way.
Yeah, by the way, I had to go back and edit a 10 s blurb out of that video.
As Gary stuck his mouth in it. Yes. Whitney smell.
No, no. Whatever. St.
Louis Linux group by presentation by Alex To, Towell, large language models. I would like to say that there was a lot of other discussion topics after that presentation was over and after.
He Alex left. Okay. So the after after. Topic thing discussions, you know, covered a bunch of different things.
As well worth sticking around for.
But anybody have anything to say about the? Large language models.
Very deep.
Agreed, I think for.
For some of our members. Who aren't familiar with the topic. I'm sure they were just gleaning, you know, bits and pieces.
Some of our other members who are somewhat familiar with it. Rich Seibel was ecstatic about it.
He said it was a great presentation. He really, really enjoyed it. And that, the guy did a really good job.
They're also, I mean, we didn't ask. You know, who was there because they were you know, one of his.
Contacts, friends, he had told them to come, but we did have a few new names. I didn't recognize it.
Being regular attendees. And so they they either found out about this from meet up or they Somehow stumbled on us.
I neglected to ask that day. Who, who had found us. So. So yeah, I don't know how they came, but apparently some people were there just for the topic.
So.
Anyway.
I thought it was funny because I thought he intentionally left like half of his slide blank so I could.
So he could like draw those equations or whatever and then like halfway through the meeting, he's like, oh, wait, my pictures aren't loaded.
Yeah, that was funny.
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Yeah. Right, he did send the slides later that did have all the pictures and those have been posted up on the archive.
Yeah.
Okay, Hi, K, the new Linux group. It was smaller in tennis than last month, but I gave a lot of tips on using help and bash help.
And I pointed out info pages and P. That I use for navigating multiple pages because it.
It does the VI. And it also, it highlights and allows you to. To jump to the reference to Todd, other topics that are pointed out in, in the info pages and man pages.
And there was a couple of power users there that didn't know about info pages or, and 2 of them did not know about the P info capability.
And they thought that was quite worthwhile, just finding out about that.
Yeah. Like I said, it was, Small group but high quality. Very worthwhile.
You know, that's one of the reasons why, you know, new, lug. You know, was created or kept the way it is.
As we just talked, you know, that large language topic. Which very much a deep end of the pool.
You know, there's a lot of stuff in that talk that Only those who already do something about large language models were going to understand.
But it's always people. You know, who will benefit from. New log, new user meetings and.
That's how we get people involved. And it's good for the Old experience hands because they get a chance to rehash it and talk about it.
Well, I always learned something. I mean, you know, it's like. I've been doing this for years, but I can always learn something new.
I just wish more of our old Great beards would show up at 2. That is slack me and the New, new Linux.
Meeting.
At the slack meaning, if still's not there, I can't spell hardware.
Yeah.
Oh.
Excellent.
Moving on, it's coming month.
Well. As tonight we counted the balance.
Oh, we did. And I guess, we probably shouldn't do it now in the middle of the Steering Committee meeting, but.
Probably when we wrap up the Steering Committee meeting, maybe just to make it, I don't know if it's officially required, but.
We could, call a board of directors meeting. Just long enough to acknowledge that. Dave.
We need to call, you need, you need to call Ken and ask him if he's going to show up at all the meetings and be secretary or not.
That's true. That's true. I'll email.
The answer you expected is no.
Okay.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I don't have any Thursday night it's gonna be the slack meeting.
Okay.
Next week, and thirteenth, we got anything. Lined up, Gary.
I, there's a guy from Zai Systems who He did a talk on Trudeau's back in October for Ed Holland's.
Johnson Drew's thing.
I guess that's, what is it? And, Sam was at that talk and thought it was good.
The guy said he would do it again for us. But, I have emailed him in January, never heard back from him, I telephoned him in January.
Never heard back from him. I neglected to contact him last month. And so I today finally got around emailing him again and phoning him again.
And I haven't had a response yet.
Okay. Available.
Yeah.
Anybody? Anybody have any potential speakers? They would like, like to offer.
Anything lined up for bass?
Nothing lined up for base.
Alright, let's.
I could probably talk about block upgrade. I got the clone done after the last meeting. I've been trying to figure out how to, how to set it up, but I think I got that figured out.
I'm gonna build another VM and then mount it and I went and tweak it where I started.
For base you wanna do, progress on, on the upgrade.
Right.
Okay. I guess we should confirm that, huh?
Right.
Hey Lee, you gotta do it?
Just. Instead of
It's confirmed.
Change considered to confirmed.
Okay.
Any kind of title? Bye.
Cloning back and bringing it online.
Another one that I kind of like that was offered is. Our presenter from Last month we did the.
Large language model. I'm lacking on his name. I go back and
Yeah. Alex Towell.
That looks, thank you. One of the other talks that he had mentioned that he'd be willing to do.
Was building, building. Libraries, for use in You are language.
On Linux machines. For those of you who don't know, the our language is language it's used for statistics.
It somewhat supplanted, suppressed. Change. If you've heard about the SAS, statistical package, your SPSS or BMD.
These were all things commercial products which for decades of dominated the field of statistics. And both in business and academic and medical research.
And Oh, now this our language is something that's open source. And as with all open source things, people have contributed.
Some stuff is perfect. Some stuff is still in process. Really good stuff though, changing the industry. And so, yeah, if he's willing to show, it would be a good presentation, I think, in 2 ways, A.
There are 980 some people Signed up in the R language user meetup group they have a map since COVID began.
They used to be very, very active. Not every month. Had head hunters who paid for food and Drink and they just never got back after COVID.
So if we were get a talk that would mention the our language I would definitely called Joshua their leader and said that he say that he was We call it co-hosting it and see if you could get his group members.
You so they haven't been active for 4 years, maybe they would come. And that's from the our language standpoint from the other standpoint is what does it mean to build a library of stuff that you make available to your program in Linux and basically that's what it'd be showing this is how to build.
The libraries and Put them into your programs. So it really applies to anything. Doesn't have to be in our language.
So. But anyway, I would call him. And see if he would like to present again. I don't know, you know.
Since he only did it last month. You know and I bringing him back too soon from our standpoint from our attendees standpoint is a good to bring them back one month later.
Or he may say it's too shooting for him. I don't think so, but.
Enough conjecture. Let's move along.
Okay.
You have anything for the Linux group?
I do not.
Moving along.
Yeah.
I want to do something about running large language models like locally on your local machine. I don't have a I don't have a talk or anything like prepared, but just something on that, something vague about that I can do.
Maybe not for the thirteenth, but the one after maybe.
On the 20 first.
Let me see.
Hey, Shaun, did you see the one that went by, I think, on Haxter about, building your own voice response LLM on a pie.
Mmm, nope, didn't see that one.
I think, I could do a talk where like we start off by like installing some large language models locally on a Linux machine and then maybe like you call into that large language model from like a.
Jupiter notebook which is similar to what What does it, Rich, say, with this collab stuff, it's similar to that.
But basically you could chat with an AI in a Jupiter notebook. And that might be interesting to some people.
I really don't think these are going to be very long. It will be a very long presentation though because Hey eyes have gotten pretty easy to run locally, so it might be kinda short, but I could do something around that.
Robert Simpson.
That doesn't have to be long. And are you thinking about, not rich rival, but, Roberts, hi tech.
It's okay.
Yeah, sorry, I got a mixed up. Yeah.
Yeah, Sean, I put that hack a day link in the chat for you if you wanna glance at it.
Sure, thanks.
You want to confirm to that or just consider or what?
Let's see, what's the difference?
Yeah.
Well, actually the difference is whether or not you got slides.
Yeah. Good.
Okay.
Oh, I, yeah, no, I think it'll be mostly demo, but. I don't I don't think it'll be Yeah, okay, I can do it.
I'll confirm it.
Right. Thank you.
Do you think what if I did what if and then what if I did what if I incorporated So last time we talked about LLMs, I shared my screen at the very end for a brief second.
And I showed some ways that I thought that we could use LLMs to help the lug as far as generating some content based on the abstract.
Huh.
So I might kinda dive into that some more too as like a practical, cause I wanna have a couple of practical used cases, not just how to run them locally, but how they can actually make.
Your life slightly better. And so I have one kind of used case in mind for like, categorizing expenses and I have another use case in mind for like.
Summarizing the talk based on the abstract that's going to be given to the lug and stuff like that.
So I can, I'll try to work all those things together into a. Into a talk on the 20 first yeah and I'll send you an abstract in the next week or so hopefully yeah in a week or so I'll have something good enough we can put up there.
Yeah.
And, and, and title is subject to change and whatever.
Sounds good.
Okay. Excellent.
Everybody else keep thinking about somebody who might want to do the main on Wednesday the thirteenth. Okay, next item.
Nothing fancy.
I was said, you know.
No real comments. And you know, these are the days for April.
Thank you.
I'll probably be out of town, but I will have. Good internet access, I'm certain.
Or whatever. All business.
You'll have to.
I don't know what to say about the Anything going on with the server? Okay. To be honest, I have not read it hardly any mail concerning.
Bach or the upgrade or any of that kind of stuff because I've been screwing around with this duck Go on, other stuff and I'm just now settling down so I'm getting to be like Gary.
Yeah.
We're working on.
Yeah.
I like the The end of the. Chart there. On planning the Bach upgrade.
Last line says we want to wait until cooler weather in the fall. Nobody is paying us to panic.
Yeah.
You, so you really are talking about in the fall. Did we miss this target?
That was that was a comment from March, I believe, last year.
Yeah. I was last year, year ago. See, that's the wisdom of not saying which fall you were talking about.
Yeah.
All right, moving along.
Yeah.
Any more to say about the Bach upgrade?
Hmm.
Oh, oh, that's right. Le's gonna talk about it.
Yeah, jump in next week and see where we're at.
No.
He was in that case. I usually.
Website stuff.
Kind of the same.
Nothing really. No. The big thing is uploading presentations. I've uploaded.
From our presentation archive, the videos from the year. 2019 to YouTube, our YouTube Sloop channel.
And, it's gotten a number of views. We're talking. That year, 24 videos, more or less.
From the sloop meeting and and the, St. Louis's group meeting. We did have I think 60 some 67 or 65 subscribers on that channel.
And we actually picked up 2 more subscribers.
Thanks.
Cause that's kinda got dumped out on a People are looking for Unix or they're looking for Linux and it kind of popped out so They've been watching it and it'd been going through them at least touching on them at least if there's any topics that they're interested in.
I intend to. Bring that stuff up to date, but it takes a long time to upload the upload those.
Yeah.
But.
And yeah, and you got AT and T fiber, right?
That's what they tell me.
No, I'm saying is your speed symmetrical? What do you get for an upload?
It's, it really hadn't changed in the last year, so I don't know what, you know, it's not that great.
But I mean, it's just that it takes me so long to set each one up and label it and stuff like that.
Oh, okay, you mean to build the upload not necessarily physically transferred. Okay, okay.
Right, right. Once I build it and turn it loose, I just ignore it. Till it's done.
We did have one video. That was held up for copyright thing. It was something Scott did. It was.
And I pointed it out to him and we looked at, he looked at it and said, that's stupid.
Cause they actually flagged something that was up on the internet archive.
Great. There's a 30 segment. She has. 30, 30 s segment of, 1903.
Yeah
Video of people unloading at Ellis Island. You're flagging the whole damn thing for that Well, actually, they're, they didn't flag the whole thing.
It's can't be viewed in certain countries. And predominantly France. And which would look like French, historically protectorates.
Oh wow.
It's, they're following their copyright laws, I guess. Hello, I don't care if the French watch our movies or not.
Alright, our presentation.
Do you?
Hey, if they want to put the entire board onto an airplane and bring them over to Paris for, you know.
Yeah.
Anyway.
Giving us a trial in Paris. Yeah. So. Thanks, No.
I think that's a good idea. Throwing those up there.
Yeah, I like this. Can I help in some way? Do you need help with this somehow? Can I?
Okay.
Cause I noticed that all the titles are just the date and the meeting name. But I was wondering if it might be better if we put Something to do with the content rather than the that.
And so could I help do that or something?
If you would create a narrative for, each of the videos for 2020 and send those to me and I could cut and paste them into it when I do the upload.
Okay, or, and that's fine. But I think we could do thumbnails too and stuff like that.
And do. And so.
Yeah, something else. I just, you know, I thought about that. If you had a thumbnail, I could pack it in there.
And, but, you know. In doing the whole year, I just didn't, I just.
I wanted to do them all in sequence. And. Yeah. And it.
Yes, and that's totally makes sense and I agree but and but rather than you'd be the middle man, do you have the password somewhere for the account and I could log in and do the thumbnails and the renamed the videos or something.
Okay.
Okay, yeah, I can set that up, I think, if I figure out how to do it.
Okay.
Okay, well, it either way would be fine, but I just think it would it would be less work on you if I could just go in and make the edits myself.
But if you want to be the middle man, I'm totally cool.
Yeah. Can you edit them after you uploaded?
Well, yeah, I know. Okay, so I'm bottom line up front. I've never done any YouTube uploading at all ever so you're way more knowledgeable about this than me so I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't know whether we could do the edit those narratives. After they've been uploaded or not.
I think you can change the title and the thumbnail. I don't think you can change the content very much without like re-uploading, but the title and the thumbnail, I think you can.
Yeah.
It's my understanding. So.
Okay.
But I just think they get more hits if the video was like, you know, the presentation title rather than just the group name.
More like the abstract stuff that we have on the man pages or not the, our web pages when we.
Before a meeting, you that what you say and something like that.
Right, right, right. Cause I, cause like, cause like if I'm looking through this YouTube list, this list of videos and I'm trying to find the one about Apache, you know, I can't find that because they're all just titled.
Yeah.
Saint Louis Linux user group. Well, St. Louis Unix user group, so I can't find the one that's about Apache.
So if the name said like what the presentations were. Then that would be easier. And like I said, I'm, I want to help.
So if it takes me watching the video or going back in time on the calendar or something and figuring that out and then renaming it or something.
I'm willing to do that. At least a little bit here and there.
Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. A lot of the, the, the actual web page.
It's been saved.
The previous web page has been saved in in a, keep. Folder It's in each of those areas up on, the in our area where we have the web pages.
There's a keep from. So what I do is
Oh, hey, that's a, that's great. I'm glad you did that.
That's awesome.
And, I don't know how to use get. Okay. Good.
His attempt.
Yeah, but if we have those, that's really good. Cause I've been wanting that for a lot for a while and I've been thinking the website should be paginated where you can go back in time and see the older ones instead of just only having the current one.
And if you save those and that means there's you know that could actually be possible retroactively if.
And to reach him on your side, your lives.
If we can get something like that going. So that's great that you save those. Please keep doing that.
And And yeah, if you want some help on this YouTube thing, Yeah, I wanna help, so.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, and I agree that sounds like a the best way to have it so that we could retroactively go back and and check out the old ones.
So, that's great when you're going to do that. It's not.
I kind of think it Yeah, I kind of think that you might be able to do that go back and change the narrative.
Which would probably be good because they probably Use that narrative to find and people were looking for stuff, you know.
In their, search engine thing.
But you know the Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, and then, you know, if we did have like a paginated website where you could like scroll back and see then we could also link to the YouTube video link to the presentation archive, you know, on the old ones once they're completed.
Yeah.
I have a lot of ideas around this and I think the YouTube is a great kind of enabler first step to making some cool things happen.
I really good job on doing these uploads.
Yeah.
You know, the problem is that I only have so much time in the day that And I just, you build in the holes, what I could do and.
I thought, thought about doing thumbnails and doing a narrative and but that thought, no, that's just gonna slow me down.
And, We might just as it is now, see a significant jump based on the YouTube availability.
And Shawn, you're right, putting a better narrative in there and a thumbnail would be better.
Yeah, so I don't know if you have the password on box somewhere that I can access it to the YouTube channel or something.
I think it's a matter of, I've got, The thing is, the owner of the channel is Andrew Lason.
But I've got, I think the full management capability other than ownership.
Is that on your Google account or are you logging in? Okay.
On my account. And I, I don't know where, I don't know, but I can go in and I can add you.
Okay.
I don't know if you have a special, do you have a special, YouTube?
I'm putting in the chat right now. So that's like.
Yeah, no, I don't.
Account. Yeah, I don't I'm not even sure how that at all works, you know Apparently I got set up and nobody ever told me how to use the damn thing.
I always thought it was. Only that Don Ellis could do it. And I've been after Don for years to do stuff with it and it turned out that I had the capability all the time.
Nobody ever told me that I or show me there's You know, you just got to stand, you just go up to that corner and you click on that button right there and it lets you in.
I didn't know. Nobody ever told me.
Yes, it's all intuitive, but. Just because it intuitive doesn't mean you can figure it out.
Until later. Anyway. Yeah, well, I'll look at that later, but not tonight and too.
Too likely to break something tonight.
Here you go.
That is, appreciate it.
Thank you both.
Oh
What do you call those pictures?
Hello.
Dumbnails. And.
Come nails. Pornography. Oh, sorry. Loopshots.
Okay. meetup.com maintenance. Gary got anything to say?
Meet up sucks.
I agree with you.
Lounce mailing list.
Yeah.
Nothing new, I guess.
No, I don't know anything to say about it.
Hi, bread meetings.
Yeah, they sound like wonderful ideas, but as we've said. Very difficult to do well.
And I don't know of anybody. Who's willing to put in more effort on it?
Yeah, I think everybody's getting used to remote now. There's Really no benefit. To have it in person.
Especially when you have to slip stuffy around for. You log or her slack.
The new Linux group, I intend never to go face to face anymore.
Cause it's too much work. And, We tried that a year ago at the Slack meeting and Yo, Bunch and Gary McKee showed up there and we had 3 people stop by and say, oh, this is great.
And then, when you doing it again. But I got something else I gotta do. I'm so I'm not staying here.
And then one guy I did come in and and and Gary the key Dixie's problem that was one of those problems that it was a bios thing and if it hadn't been that he was there live we never would have caught it.
So slack stuff, it's almost impossible to fix everything.
Yeah, on Slack meetings anymore, they're just free format and. We can kind of give guidance on and troubleshooting and stuff like that.
And surprisingly, we have been very helpful to some people. But, whatever.
And the captions keep going away.
Whatever.
Oh.
Did, where were you gonna?
We gonna.
Talk about cameras. And microphones and projectors anymore. We did talk about them last month and a month before.
I don't think they need to keep it on the list.
Attendant database.
Okay.
Well tonight is the night right night to talk about that because really that There's only 2 reasons to keep it.
One is the quasi legal or bylaw requirements of knowing that somebody has been an attendance twice before they can vote.
And that was of course what happened tonight. The old the other reason to keep track of the attendance is to, you know, try and figure out who's coming, who the regulars are.
Increase social contact. Make people feel comfortable. And, So it's useful for that. Takes a lot of effort to do it, but
Whatever. Okay. Yeah, planning schedule report database.
Hmm.
You know, we've demonstrated that here. That's steering committee meetings and. Certainly I make a lot of use of it.
Stan puts a lot of work into it. And some of the other folks here have also utilized it, made good use of it.
Like I say, most of the work that goes into to having made it and keeping it updated. It stands.
So thank you, Sam. Yeah, really.
Welcome. Yeah. Hi. Hi, I have ambitions to improve it.
But that's that I think you should wait till after we upgrade Bach.
And outs.
No time, no changes.
Which is annoying. I'll get annoyed someday and do something phenomenal. Yeah, that's the way it works.
Orization papers, Gary, do you know where they are?
Box is still there.
Sponsorships. We're no good at this.
We've got a couple of very good sponsors who for some reason kept us for a long time.
Some organization called And. Ken Johnson.
I think he does doesn't his own name. I don't think he does that under a company name.
So
He might maybe just didn't tell us.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. I was wondering if we upload these videos to YouTube and let them cover that hosting and bandwidth cost.
I don't know how significant it is or if it's worth. If it's worth doing, but now that we have a YouTube and we can upload the videos there.
That could free up some space on some hard drive somewhere if we, you know, if we need to.
We need help.
Hey, man.
Gary, I think you need to do less publicity and find more. Indians.
Yep, you're right.
And I don't know if I said that at Steering Committee meeting last month, but I know.
Stan and I talked about that. Yeah, I definitely have been pushing on publicity. Or the one fact here it is in minutes.
Last month but Yeah, I think. Just gonna have to concentrate less on that and Hopefully it will continue growing without.
Hey, new business.
I'll take that as none.
Yeah, I will say from the steering committee. It sounds like we, We have one of the members of the board.
Dave. Who will be leaving the board at this point and damn Dave. Please stay around.
You've really been great to have working in the organization. And, I dare say. Maybe people didn't jump up to vote for you because I figured you'd have some health issues here recently.
They wanted to give you a rest. But, but no, you have. Contributed so much over the years.
We really appreciate it. And we definitely want you to be around a lot. So. So thank you, Dave.
Oh no.
Any new business?
Don't think so.
Okay. Okay. Recurring requirements that you know whatever We caned the ballads.
That is that, when we get it confirmed on. Hacking Secretary.
I'll have to update the web page.
I, I, I emailed Kim but haven't gotten her client.
Yeah.
Do we need to consider any kind of workshops for July and August? Or cancelling July and August.
What's your workshop? I'm I haven't seen one in 20 years.
No, I don't remember. Okay. What's the workshop? Well, what was I talking about?
It's not even there anymore.
Yeah.
There really nothing in April. For the calendar or for the
The second for now we had nothing in April.
Nothing. Nothing in April.
March, April. You know
And the only reason we got make. Listen in, because we were worried about lesson crypt there for for a while, but Yes.
Hey, hang on. There's a buddy NS in March.
There he is.
Yeah, it renews every 90 days.
Shit, what did I just do?
Hit you under lead.
Oh.
Yeah.
There we go.
Know what it's for?
How are you?
Yeah, it renewed it's on the bank statements in February.
Well, what's June?
March, April, May, probably should be May.
Okay.
No. I think what Stan's asking is the first entry in June. Is the buddy DNS account.
Right, and I'm saying that probably should be May. Because buddy NS renewed in February so March, April, May would be the next 3 months.
Oh yeah.
Somebody DNS should not be listed under March. Yeah, because they just renewed.
April, May, June. I'm sorry, Stan. June is right.
I'm sure. There you go.
Okay.
Let's not change this tonight. Okay. Yeah. Hmm.
Yeah.
Well.
We only do do we wanna do any blue sky stuff?
I don't think so. Yes.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Rousing a rousing round of yes. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I suggested we, Hey, join the meeting.
Bye.
Is there a second? Second? All in favor, second-five, theeger sign, the, Do we need a board meeting?
I guess technically, yeah, we could have a board meeting since we I think we have all of the necessary people here.
So, See, since the secretary still signed in, you want to just add this on to.
So we have a Subscript or. Transcript.
Yeah.
Well, stand types, we can go ahead and. Proceed. So this is the.
Meeting of the sleuth board of directors the date today is Monday, March the fourth.
2,004. Okay, that date correct? Do I not? Yes.
Okay. We just counted the ballots, this evening and, so the, The vote that we tallied.
Would show that Stan Ricard. And,
No.
Ken Johnson. Is that correct? No, I'm sorry. Stan and Sean.
No.
Sure. Go. I'm sorry. It's Sean and James.
Right.
Hey, Lano, what?
Have been elected to the board of directors. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, what? I didn't sign up for this, hold on.
You didn't send me the $10 either.
Yeah.
Let me avoid a director. Say it sounds fancy. Okay.
Oh, wow.
That's right. You'll you'll you'll be absolutely overwhelmed with the workload involved seeing as let's see this is the first time the board directors have met in a year.
Seriously, if you have them paid close attention. The board of directors exist because the bylaw says they do and technically if we're going to be spending money yeah, we probably should have a board or director vote on it.
And, so things like that, spending money, making a contract. and so.
Literally the board of directors meetings, we don't have set schedules for it.
And frequently it becomes that most of the Board of Directors are usually here at the Steering Committee meetings and so if something need be done we say oh we need a board meeting call it to harder click click okay we got a vote on this all in favor all opposed meeting over click so it's not you know It's not like it's a big further requirement of time.
He says before all hell breaks through something.
Me here. I need to hold on a second.
Yeah.
You can't use your relatives and you can't chase hose on on the board.
I guess so. Who put my name on the ballot so I can add one to my enemies list here.
Yeah.
Hey.
Yeah. Well, you, you did, Sean. You forgot the sun, Stan is 10 bucks, right?
Yeah. Last 7 or 8 meetings I said you want your name off the ballot to not be on the ballot send me $10
Yeah, you thought Sam was joking.
You
You know, even, even $5 would have gotten you a favorable consideration to take, you know, spell your name wrong.
Yeah. Oh man. That's funny.
Actually in the history of the group there was one person who write after reelected him to the board never showed up again.
Hmm.
So.
We even we even had a president of the St. Louis Linux Usage group. After he got elected, he never came back.
Yeah.
Honestly.
No, well.
Who is that, Stan?
No one remembers.
It I don't remember it. That I'd have to go look it up.
Oh, don't burn yourself.
Yeah, it was back in the early 2010 something or 2005 or somewhere in there.
Oh gosh. I was on the East Coast then. I don't,
And once again, just to put it into the board of directors minutes, a big thanks to Dave who's Really got a lot for the group and I say it's
Did we vote on this? I don't remember.
I'm losing approved.
I guess we should. Do I hear a motion? Don't know. Second.
Anybody opposed?
And, motion carries. So a great big thanks to Dave. Like I said earlier, you're always welcome and.
We always listen to what you have to say since it's always the voice of good experience.
I move, the board. Be adjourned.
Alright.
A second. All in favor signify political sign. All opposed? Hearing none, we're adjourned.
801. Alright.
Anything else we need to do? And yes, John, I was serious. The best of my memory.
I can't remember. Many earlier than maybe 20 some years ago whenever we were first farming this organization was the last time we had a board of directors meeting that wasn't just a perfunctory.
Vote on what we had already decided in a Steering Committee meeting. That was like, like I say, when we were first forming the organization, just trying to figure out what we were doing.
And on occasion we have approved amendments to our Bye, Laj.
And that was a quick vote. It lengthened the meeting by about 3 min.
Instead of the usual under 12 s.
This is less painful in the old days when we were doing it someplace, that had drinks on the table.
Let me know.
Yeah. Well, you got yours. I got mine.
Do we need to shut the recorders off?
I suppose so. So I guess, this is the conclusion of the, Steering committee meeting of Tuesday, March the fourth, 2024.
And